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Strange loud "whirring" noise on startup?
115K 4x2 v8
When you start it motor makes a loud whirring noise for 20 seconds or so than it stops. Sounds like a electrical motor or a fan of some kind. Best guess it sounds to be coming from middle of motor like in the intake manifold. Truck runs and drives fine no CEL.
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10-17-2013, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by IcantDo55
115K 4x2 v8
When you start it motor makes a loud whirring noise for 20 seconds or so than it stops. Sounds like a electrical motor or a fan of some kind. Best guess it sounds to be coming from middle of motor like in the intake manifold. Truck runs and drives fine no CEL.
Search did not help because I don't know if i spelled "whirring" right.
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Follow up:
I typed this after changing oil and it was the 1st and 2nd start up while cold. I had truck idling while I posted this, went back outside turned it off and on and no noise. Just posting whit I see.
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10-17-2013, 02:43 PM
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This may sound stupid but, do you have XREAS on your Rig?
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10-17-2013, 02:44 PM
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This may sound stupid but, do you have XREAS on your Rig?
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Thats the corner to corner shock thing right? I dont believe the 4x2 came with that. Why?
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10-17-2013, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by IcantDo55
115K 4x2 v8
When you start it motor makes a loud whirring noise for 20 seconds or so than it stops. Sounds like a electrical motor or a fan of some kind. Best guess it sounds to be coming from middle of motor like in the intake manifold. Truck runs and drives fine no CEL.
Search did not help because I don't know if i spelled "whirring" right.
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What year is your 4Runner? Sounds like it's the air pump system going bad. I had the same thing but installed a bypass module to fix the issue.
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Thats the corner to corner shock thing right? I dont believe the 4x2 came with that. Why?
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Ah okay, because if you did, that would be something to look at(Process of elimination). I say this because sometimes I can hear this whirring noise, which happen to be the XREAS doing it's thing.
PS: Sorry, I didn't catch the 4x2 thing from the get go..
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10-17-2013, 02:49 PM
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What year is your 4Runner? Sounds like it's the air pump system going bad. I had the same thing but installed a bypass module to fix the issue.
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Yeah, the emissions pump system.
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10-17-2013, 02:50 PM
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What year is your 4Runner? Sounds like it's the air pump system going bad. I had the same thing but installed a bypass module to fix the issue.
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2006
I like bypasses.
Where is this pump? Can I default it on to see if its the sound and how?
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10-17-2013, 02:51 PM
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This is the engine fan.
During start up you get a big whirl sound because the fan comes on and then after a few seconds stops.
My Tacoma did this too.
Completely normal.
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10-17-2013, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chmura
This is the engine fan.
During start up you get a big whirl sound because the fan comes on and then after a few seconds stops.
My Tacoma did this too.
Completely normal.
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This is really loud. Had truck for 6 months I think I would have heard it before.
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10-17-2013, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by IcantDo55
2006
I like bypasses.
Where is this pump? Can I default it on to see if its the sound and how?
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It's located UNDER the intake manifold, so a proper fix is expensive. There are a couple bypasses: cheap one involving a relay, resistor and some wiring, or a $200 solid state module that tricks the air injection system into thinking conditions are such that it should NOT run (keeps it in stand-by mode), and then there's the whole top engine tear down to replace a couple expensive pumps and air valves.
What it is
Brief whirring/revving noise at startup
module and a good read on why/how they fail
Let me know if you have any other questions. I know another member here did the relay/resistor method which works just as well as the module.
@ superman3043
Bottom line is that you can also just live with it, but it can/will throw codes depending on which part of it has failed and certain codes will throw the vehicle into limp mode (rarest side effect but still a possibility).
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Can I default it on to see if its the sound and how?
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It will only activate when the engine is cold. Which is why when you went back out and fired up the truck again it didn't activate. Not sure if you have a scantool or not but might want to do a OBDII scan or stop by a parts store that does complimentary scans. It might turn up a pending code.
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10-19-2013, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HokieRunner
It's located UNDER the intake manifold, so a proper fix is expensive. There are a couple bypasses: cheap one involving a relay, resistor and some wiring, or a $200 solid state module that tricks the air injection system into thinking conditions are such that it should NOT run (keeps it in stand-by mode), and then there's the whole top engine tear down to replace a couple expensive pumps and air valves.
What it is
Brief whirring/revving noise at startup
module and a good read on why/how they fail
Let me know if you have any other questions. I know another member here did the relay/resistor method which works just as well as the module.
@ superman3043
Bottom line is that you can also just live with it, but it can/will throw codes depending on which part of it has failed and certain codes will throw the vehicle into limp mode (rarest side effect but still a possibility).
It will only activate when the engine is cold. Which is why when you went back out and fired up the truck again it didn't activate. Not sure if you have a scantool or not but might want to do a OBDII scan or stop by a parts store that does complimentary scans. It might turn up a pending code.
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Excellent post sir. Will report back after fix
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chmura
This is the engine fan.
During start up you get a big whirl sound because the fan comes on and then after a few seconds stops.
My Tacoma did this too.
Completely normal.
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mine does this too...........guess its normal..opened the hood to confirm, its the fan alright
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I read in one of the many searches I did that you could unplug the pump. Where is the plug?
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